Comments on: It’s not closed unless I want it changed

By: Aristotle

Aristotle — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:45:54 +0000

The possibility of this sort of thing exemplifies quite well what my reason for going that route is. I am always aware of the data shadow I am generating and unlike many others, I am also incapable of repressing my awareness of it.

By: Jim Deville

Jim Deville — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:42:06 +0000

Assaf, as the SDET on the IronRuby project, I beg to differ.

IronRuby is a fully open sourced project. If you want to go add a certain library, and you implement a good C# implementation of it that passes the RubySpec, we’ll accept it. We use the Open source RubySpec implementation as our primary Ruby tests. All patches that we get go through a code review that is sent out to the IronRuby mailing list. I’m happy to answer any questions you have, just shoot me an email. jdeville at microsoft dot com.

By: Assaf

Assaf — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:42:06 +0000

@aristotle,

I don’t understand your reason for going that route, but I understand the logic that follows. You’re looking at the overall platform and deciding not to be part of it. My hat off to you.

By: Aristotle

Aristotle — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:01:24 +0000

To this day, I do not use a cell phone. If I ever do, it’s going to be one that can be turned off as in taking-out-the-battery off (which means the iPhone is out of the race right away), and it’ll spend a lot of its time that way.

(I also avoid using my debit card – I pay in cash, which cash I almost always withdraw at one of the three ATMs in the neighbourhood.

Oh yeah, also, I renewed my passport just before they were going to start issuing them with RFIDs. And by the look of things, I am not going to be visiting the U.S. in this lifetime.

And thanks for asking, but I don’t wear a tinfoil hat.)

By: Assaf

Assaf — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:39:29 +0000

I don’t know much about IronPython, but I’m going to guess there’s no way to get a feature into IronRuby without Microsoft’s consent. The gatekeeper is the company, not the community. And that’s what I’m talking about.

Not using other people’s code.

Check out the iPhone management tool, it’s written in Rails and running on MRI, both of which ship in OS X. Doesn’t make up for the platform lock-in, or the AT&T deal, but being pragmatic, just moving more companies to where Apple is on the open scale would be a big win.

And PS, I agree with Microsoft that Windows Mobile is more open. I just can’t enjoy using it.

By: Nik Cubrilovic

Nik Cubrilovic — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:39:00 +0000

Awesome. Microsoft are starting to become more open – checkout the group Ozzie is leading. The devs there are all python, ruby guys (albeit Iron* on .NET). That team at Microsoft is doing a lot of cool stuff (Mesh etc.)