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	<title>Comments on: Patience, Buildr docs coming up</title>
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		<title>By: SteveIvy</title>
		<link>http://labnotes.org/2007/05/07/patience-buildr-docs-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-137912</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveIvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 15:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mat,

I admit my title (&quot;I hate RDoc&quot;) was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I think my point stands, that in the bad-old-days the &quot;docs&quot; most libraries in the Java world shipped with were like Buildr&#039;s current RDocs - no intro (in english), few or no examples, etc. 

I think that part of the problem is that the structured format of inline docs (JavaDoc, RDoc, perldoc, etc) does not lend itself to writing the &quot;human-readable&quot; documentation that really helps users get the heads around the code and into the same space that the developer was in. 

IMO this kind of documentation is best written on a blank white sheet - where the developer can practice getting into the user&#039;s headspace first, then bring the user into their space. &quot;This is what I was thinking and this is how to understand and benefit from it...&quot;

Anyway, a few more cents&#039; worth. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mat,</p>
<p>I admit my title (&#8220;I hate RDoc&#8221;) was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I think my point stands, that in the bad-old-days the &#8220;docs&#8221; most libraries in the Java world shipped with were like Buildr&#8217;s current RDocs &#8211; no intro (in english), few or no examples, etc. </p>
<p>I think that part of the problem is that the structured format of inline docs (JavaDoc, RDoc, perldoc, etc) does not lend itself to writing the &#8220;human-readable&#8221; documentation that really helps users get the heads around the code and into the same space that the developer was in. </p>
<p>IMO this kind of documentation is best written on a blank white sheet &#8211; where the developer can practice getting into the user&#8217;s headspace first, then bring the user into their space. &#8220;This is what I was thinking and this is how to understand and benefit from it&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, a few more cents&#8217; worth. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Mat Schaffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat Schaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 14:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure how your writing it, but I think Rake and Rails are decent examples of how RDocs can work as reasonable documentation.  Basically give every major class page plenty of example code or files such that someone knows how to use them.  Granted nothing beats a good tutorial, but there&#039;s no need to knock RDocs.  What&#039;d they ever do to you! :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how your writing it, but I think Rake and Rails are decent examples of how RDocs can work as reasonable documentation.  Basically give every major class page plenty of example code or files such that someone knows how to use them.  Granted nothing beats a good tutorial, but there&#8217;s no need to knock RDocs.  What&#8217;d they ever do to you! :-P</p>
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		<title>By: monkinetic &#124; Blog Archive &#187; Patience</title>
		<link>http://labnotes.org/2007/05/07/patience-buildr-docs-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-137905</link>
		<dc:creator>monkinetic &#124; Blog Archive &#187; Patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 21:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now that&#8217;s how it&#8217;s supposed too work. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now that&#8217;s how it&#8217;s supposed too work. [...]</p>
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